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Title: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: deanwebb on May 27, 2015, 09:22:42 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/selfparking-volvo-plows-into-journalists-after-owner-neglects-to-pay-for-extra-feature-that-stops-cars-crashing-into-people-10277203.html
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Because pedestrian detection is an optional extra.
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Also, automatic braking for pedestrians is ANOTHER optional extra.
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Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: routerdork on May 27, 2015, 10:10:20 AM
I bet those options become standard features real quick like now.
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: dlots on May 27, 2015, 12:08:30 PM
Hey #Volvo (or pretty much any company for that matter) If you come up with a neat feature, don't make the "Don't murder people" part optional, I think it will eventually become bad PR, or make this feature illegal before to long.
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: deanwebb on May 27, 2015, 01:17:42 PM
Considering that even in areas with laughably easy drivers' license tests (Egypt: Drive 2 meters forward, then drive 2 meters backward), vehicular manslaughter is still frowned upon, one would think that getting a self-driving car put together would include a baseline functionality of "don't accelerate into a crowd". To think of that as "optional" is, well...

:developers:
DEVELOPERS!!!
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: Nerm on May 27, 2015, 01:42:50 PM
Detecting human pedestrians as an optional feature? Really?  :zomgwtfbbq:
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: icecream-guy on May 27, 2015, 02:33:33 PM
car a la carte, do you want wheels with that?  I would definitely recommend the engine option!
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: dlots on May 27, 2015, 02:39:14 PM
If it doesn't detect baby ducks or kittens they might as well just declare bankruptcy now
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: Dieselboy on May 29, 2015, 03:05:59 AM
The classic TV show Knight Rider already covered this when they had the new model KITT (think it was red in colour). KITT's excuse for planning on ploughing through a deer in the road, was that the deer would not have caused damage to KITT. Completely logical from the cars perspective.
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: deanwebb on May 29, 2015, 08:55:55 AM
Just to make matters more complicated, when a car encounters an object that it should stop for, but cannot stop in time to avoid striking, should that car swerve? How does the car determine where the least target-rich environment exists? How does it weigh the lives of the passengers vs. the life or lives of the persons in harm's way?

What happens in the programming of a driverless car when some idiot, and there are lots of these idiots, decides to run out across 8 lanes of freeway?
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: dlots on May 29, 2015, 12:37:33 PM
New protocol, RDP (Real-time driving protocol), each car traveling in the same direction forms neighborsihps and lets other cars ahead know of issues, and their GPS quardanates
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: NetworkGroover on May 29, 2015, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: dlots on May 29, 2015, 12:37:33 PM
New protocol, RDP (Real-time driving protocol), each car traveling in the same direction forms neighborsihps and lets other cars ahead know of issues, and their GPS quardanates

Would hate to see what a reconvergence event looks like in that scenario....
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: icecream-guy on May 29, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: AspiringNetworker on May 29, 2015, 12:44:34 PM

reconvergence event....
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: NetworkGroover on May 29, 2015, 01:06:01 PM
Quote from: ristau5741 on May 29, 2015, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: AspiringNetworker on May 29, 2015, 12:44:34 PM

reconvergence event....

hahahaha - exactly!   :drama:
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: SimonV on May 29, 2015, 01:20:43 PM
It would be link-state

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Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: Dieselboy on June 02, 2015, 09:22:56 PM
Quote from: deanwebb on May 29, 2015, 08:55:55 AM
Just to make matters more complicated, when a car encounters an object that it should stop for, but cannot stop in time to avoid striking, should that car swerve? How does the car determine where the least target-rich environment exists? How does it weigh the lives of the passengers vs. the life or lives of the persons in harm's way?

What happens in the programming of a driverless car when some idiot, and there are lots of these idiots, decides to run out across 8 lanes of freeway?

I would like to know if speeding up is an option in the programming. The person who ran out in the road could jump. If the car is going fast enough, the person would jump over the car.
Seen it once on TV. 
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Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: deanwebb on June 03, 2015, 07:59:34 AM
True, dat.

It would save lives if people would jump over cars more often.

Maybe we could all get exoskeletons that, if they detect an oncoming car, launch the user 30 feet into the air, so he can clear the oncoming vehicle. But, then, people would complain about hitting tunnels and overpasses and lightposts and trees and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Self-driving car rampage...
Post by: deanwebb on June 09, 2015, 03:27:23 PM
http://thebulletin.org/struggle-ban-killer-robots7150

More on the question of how much autonomy to grant to systems, weapons in this case.

Which made me think about either hacks or, more likely, software problems on semi-autonomous weapon systems. I imagined an airstrip with a range of drones on it when, suddenly, one of them has a glitch that results in an immediate activation of the drone at a fully autonomous level, along with activation of its routines to hunt for targets. Mayhem ensues.