I just had a head-hunter tell me they went ahead and submitted my resume for a job without talking to me 1st. (A head-hunter I haven't really messed with before so we don't have any kind of relationship.)
We'll see how it goes but I am not to happy, they are asking ~20% more than the max the company has said they would pay, it's a 1 year contract with questionable benefits, and might involve travel. So 2 things I don't want with no room in the upper pay scale, but the pay would be decent.
I'd contact that company and let them know that the headhunter is operating unethically. Sending out resumes w/o permission is dirty, dirty pool.
That is bull crap!
Quote from: deanwebb on February 08, 2016, 03:05:22 PM
I'd contact that company and let them know that the headhunter is operating unethically. Sending out resumes w/o permission is dirty, dirty pool.
Seconded. You've got enough experience in the job and the market so a decent feedback that you're not set up with this is appropriate.
I know at least at my company the recruiter that supplies the candidate first is the one we will work with. Lets say you were looking for work, and using recruiter A. Then this guy (jerk A) without talking to you submits you for a job. The next day recruiter A talks to you, and you agree to be submitted for the same job. We will not accept your resume from recruiter A because we already got it from jerk A, and will be contacting him for any interviews, or questions we have.
-Otanx
Quote from: Otanx on February 09, 2016, 09:59:44 AM
I know at least at my company the recruiter that supplies the candidate first is the one we will work with. Lets say you were looking for work, and using recruiter A. Then this guy (jerk A) without talking to you submits you for a job. The next day recruiter A talks to you, and you agree to be submitted for the same job. We will not accept your resume from recruiter A because we already got it from jerk A, and will be contacting him for any interviews, or questions we have.
-Otanx
Which is why it's important to report those jerks, so that they get dropped as preferred vendors.
Quote from: deanwebb on February 09, 2016, 11:03:41 AM
Quote from: Otanx on February 09, 2016, 09:59:44 AM
I know at least at my company the recruiter that supplies the candidate first is the one we will work with. Lets say you were looking for work, and using recruiter A. Then this guy (jerk A) without talking to you submits you for a job. The next day recruiter A talks to you, and you agree to be submitted for the same job. We will not accept your resume from recruiter A because we already got it from jerk A, and will be contacting him for any interviews, or questions we have.
-Otanx
Which is why it's important to report those jerks, so that they get dropped as preferred vendors.
I'm not sure I understand which company to report the jerk, his company? or the company he submitted someone's resume to?
Report to the company he submitted to, for sure. Report to his company on the off chance that they'll punish him and not give him a gold star for being a real go-getter.
Headhunters are harrassing jerks. Half of what they tell you are lies. Even had a few tell me that the company phone is a job perk! It's not a perk, it's the opposite. A perk would be that the company has a free gym and spa.
Quote from: Dieselboy on February 09, 2016, 07:31:27 PM
Headhunters are harrassing jerks. Half of what they tell you are lies. Even had a few tell me that the company phone is a job perk! It's not a perk, it's the opposite. A perk would be that the company has a free gym and spa.
job phone is a perk if you can call sex lines and also buddies overseas on the company dime...
Quote from: ristau5741 on February 10, 2016, 08:43:23 AM
job phone is a perk if you can call sex lines and also buddies overseas on the company dime...
:problem?:
Quote from: ristau5741 on February 10, 2016, 08:43:23 AM
job phone is a perk if you can call sex lines and also buddies overseas on the company dime...
Wait! That isn't allowed? What if I am on company time, and in the office when I do it? Is it OK then?
-Otanx
Quote from: Otanx on February 10, 2016, 09:50:34 AM
Quote from: ristau5741 on February 10, 2016, 08:43:23 AM
job phone is a perk if you can call sex lines and also buddies overseas on the company dime...
Wait! That isn't allowed? What if I am on company time, and in the office when I do it? Is it OK then?
-Otanx
From the tone of ristau's post it sounds like something he does regularly - I didn't get a sense that it wasn't allowed.
Quote from: AspiringNetworker on February 10, 2016, 12:27:01 PM
Quote from: Otanx on February 10, 2016, 09:50:34 AM
Quote from: ristau5741 on February 10, 2016, 08:43:23 AM
job phone is a perk if you can call sex lines and also buddies overseas on the company dime...
Wait! That isn't allowed? What if I am on company time, and in the office when I do it? Is it OK then?
-Otanx
From the tone of ristau's post it sounds like something he does regularly - I didn't get a sense that it wasn't allowed.
hey now, watch those accusations. I don't do none of that.
So this has taken an interesting turn: I went ahead and interviewed for this job I didn't really want that was described to me as mainly swapping out hardware, and it turns out that is part of another department. This job is data-center, WAN/LAN, routing/switching, over all a lot of the stuff I want to do, and before the interview was over they had sent my head-hunter a message saying they wanted to make me an offer for more than what I asked for, not by much, but still that is awesome!! It's contract, but pretty much everyone who was a contractor last year has gone full time.
Honestly I am not seeing any good reason to not take.
Quote from: ristau5741 on February 10, 2016, 02:10:18 PM
Quote from: AspiringNetworker on February 10, 2016, 12:27:01 PM
Quote from: Otanx on February 10, 2016, 09:50:34 AM
Quote from: ristau5741 on February 10, 2016, 08:43:23 AM
job phone is a perk if you can call sex lines and also buddies overseas on the company dime...
Wait! That isn't allowed? What if I am on company time, and in the office when I do it? Is it OK then?
-Otanx
From the tone of ristau's post it sounds like something he does regularly - I didn't get a sense that it wasn't allowed.
hey now, watch those accusations. I don't do none of that.
:problem?:
Quote from: dlots on February 17, 2016, 06:49:30 PM
So this has taken an interesting turn: I went ahead and interviewed for this job I didn't really want that was described to me as mainly swapping out hardware, and it turns out that is part of another department. This job is data-center, WAN/LAN, routing/switching, over all a lot of the stuff I want to do, and before the interview was over they had sent my head-hunter a message saying they wanted to make me an offer for more than what I asked for, not by much, but still that is awesome!! It's contract, but pretty much everyone who was a contractor last year has gone full time.
Honestly I am not seeing any good reason to not take.
Wow - awesome! Congrats!
How'd the questionable benefits and travel work out, that you mentioned concern with in the OP
The travel is handled by the field team (we just remote into their laptops), I got the benefits info, no vacation (cause I am a contractor), and the health insurance is high, but over all not bad.
Have you said thanks to the head-hunter? :)
Yep