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Title: TShoot
Post by: dlots on March 24, 2016, 04:57:13 PM
Forgot how horrid and fun TShoot could be, almost failed it won't let me run most of the commands I like to run, I find it REALLY hard to tshoot a L2 connection if I can't look at the MAC address table and arp tables.  They also fixed it so you can't check your answers anymore... In spite of all it's many many many shortcomings it was still more fun than any other exam I have taken, and I got all my non-retired certs renewed.
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: deanwebb on March 24, 2016, 06:44:09 PM
You passed?

:applause:
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: dlots on March 25, 2016, 10:06:24 AM
yep
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: that1guy15 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:18 AM
Nice congrats!!

I always wanted to take the TSHOOT. oh well.

What are you looking at now? CCIE???
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: icecream-guy on March 25, 2016, 11:11:54 AM
cert book reads like a million things could be the problem, I suppose time management is key with the number of tasks and time allowed to complete.
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: dlots on March 25, 2016, 12:50:55 PM
I already had the NP, just taking that again to renew my certs. 

If anyone cares over on dhimes.com I have a set of practice Tshoot questoins I made long long ago when tshoot 1st begain (after my 1st fail)

don't rely on any commands other than show run and show  spanning-tree, cause they probably don't work.

Best tip I can give you without breaking the NDA is step 1 ping the default gateway, if you can't it's probably layer 2, if you can it's probably layer 3

Working on my degree currently, then the CCIE I think
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: icecream-guy on April 28, 2016, 11:10:55 AM
Finally finished that book, intimidating with 800 pages+ and everything that can go wrong in a troubleshooting scenario,
I did watch the TSHOOT online demo video, I thought it would be more hands on, but the video makes is seem like the exam is much easier than a hands on troubleshooting scenario would be, and I don't like the cascaded questions, questions that rely on your previous answers, i.e. makes me think that if one gets the first one wrong and the whole ticket is wrong. I still don;'t know why Cisco is hugging on to the frame-relay technology.

Working on installing GNS3, since my lab doesn't support 15.x, and making some sort of spreadsheet that can list possible issues for each troubleshooting scenario.
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: that1guy15 on April 28, 2016, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: ristau5741 on April 28, 2016, 11:10:55 AM
Finally finished that book, intimidating with 800 pages+ and everything that can go wrong in a troubleshooting scenario,
I did watch the TSHOOT online demo video, I thought it would be more hands on, but the video makes is seem like the exam is much easier than a hands on troubleshooting scenario would be, and I don't like the cascaded questions, questions that rely on your previous answers, i.e. makes me think that if one gets the first one wrong and the whole ticket is wrong. I still don;'t know why Cisco is hugging on to the frame-relay technology.

Working on installing GNS3, since my lab doesn't support 15.x, and making some sort of spreadsheet that can list possible issues for each troubleshooting scenario.

If you really want to dig in check out "Troubleshooting IP Routing Protocols" Its a little old but is a good read to understand why protocols act the way they do. Also you can run through "IP Routing on Cisco IOS, IOS XE, and IOS XR"

Honestly though these are going to be way overkill for what you need on the TSHOOT exam. With the experience/knowledge you have it should be a pretty easy test.
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: icecream-guy on April 28, 2016, 02:42:45 PM
Quote from: that1guy15 on April 28, 2016, 12:00:02 PM
Quote from: ristau5741 on April 28, 2016, 11:10:55 AM
Finally finished that book, intimidating with 800 pages+ and everything that can go wrong in a troubleshooting scenario,
I did watch the TSHOOT online demo video, I thought it would be more hands on, but the video makes is seem like the exam is much easier than a hands on troubleshooting scenario would be, and I don't like the cascaded questions, questions that rely on your previous answers, i.e. makes me think that if one gets the first one wrong and the whole ticket is wrong. I still don;'t know why Cisco is hugging on to the frame-relay technology.

Working on installing GNS3, since my lab doesn't support 15.x, and making some sort of spreadsheet that can list possible issues for each troubleshooting scenario.

If you really want to dig in check out "Troubleshooting IP Routing Protocols" Its a little old but is a good read to understand why protocols act the way they do. Also you can run through "IP Routing on Cisco IOS, IOS XE, and IOS XR"

Honestly though these are going to be way overkill for what you need on the TSHOOT exam. With the experience/knowledge you have it should be a pretty easy test.

yeah, but I've taken enough Cisco tests to be paranoid, you know the stuff, like those questions that they have native English speakers translate into Japanese, then give it to native Japanese speakers translate same back to English. and it goes right into the test as is. and the ones where the over complicate simple concepts.  yecch.

That and sometimes Cisco tests are more about the nuances of the English language, than about the technology.

Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: that1guy15 on April 28, 2016, 03:35:44 PM
Have you checked out the test simulator? I hear its pretty damn close.
http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en_us/training-events/le3/le2/le37/le10/tshoot_demo.html
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: dlots on April 28, 2016, 03:58:17 PM
Yep, the configs are diffrent and the questions IMO are alot harder, but the command set is about the same.
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: icecream-guy on April 29, 2016, 07:48:37 AM
Quote from: that1guy15 on April 28, 2016, 03:35:44 PM
Have you checked out the test simulator? I hear its pretty damn close.
http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en_us/training-events/le3/le2/le37/le10/tshoot_demo.html

nah, I don't run Adobe Flash due to the number of vulnerabilities, 

did find a video of it.  makes it look easy.

I suppose one could look at it as a puzzle, all the pieces are there, all one has to do is go find them.
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: SimonV on April 29, 2016, 08:31:34 AM
GNS3vault.com has the topology in GNS3. Not sure if it's still current though
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: icecream-guy on April 29, 2016, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: SimonV on April 29, 2016, 08:31:34 AM
GNS3vault.com has the topology in GNS3. Not sure if it's still current though

Cisco never made the newer topology public for the 2.0 version
I suppose I'll have to install GNS3 this weekend, and get a couple of 7206's running 15.x
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: icecream-guy on April 29, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
side tracked today, trying to install GNS3 in a virtualbox.
but I installed GNS3 first.
we'll actually trying to figure out how to boot the virtual server into windows.
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: wintermute000 on April 30, 2016, 12:55:42 AM
ristau, if you failboat TSHOOT then deanwebb will personally put a dunce hat in your forum avatar [emoji14]seriously its like asking you to do a driving test (assuming you've been driving since you were 18).

Put it this way, our resident wireless specialist (i.e. has done literally NOTHING but wireless for the last 3-4 years) went for his re-cert the other day, TSHOOT with zero prep, took him around half an hour flat.


Just stop stressing and smash it out.... once you're done I bet you'll be all like "now what was all that fuss about"
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: deanwebb on April 30, 2016, 08:26:20 AM
Now I wanna take TSHOOT... almost...
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: icecream-guy on May 02, 2016, 07:41:17 AM
spent the weekend side tracked, got virtual box installed, and downloaded the GNS3 VM, which I couldn't get to boot for some reason, I think it may be my AMD Processor. I tried to get a Windows 7 VM up and running but don't have an install disk, tried to to a system restore, but that didn't work.  I loaded Debian, did get that up and working. So i have a linux VM running on my PC. that's good.  I still have to install GNS3 (Non VM version) on my home PC. and start playing with some of the labs.

Building a VM for the first time is scary as crap, especially with formatting the partition and writing the master boot record. I thought I'd have blown up my PC. but it was all good.


Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: that1guy15 on May 02, 2016, 08:26:45 AM
If you're having issues with getting the resources on your home systems you should check out running them on AWS or any of the cloud services. For something you run a couple hours a day or so its super cheap.
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: dlots on May 02, 2016, 09:40:37 AM
and an AWS box is free for a year.
Title: Re: TShoot
Post by: icecream-guy on May 02, 2016, 11:01:24 AM
Quote from: that1guy15 on May 02, 2016, 08:26:45 AM
If you're having issues with getting the resources on your home systems you should check out running them on AWS or any of the cloud services. For something you run a couple hours a day or so its super cheap.

timely, just sat through an 2 hour introductory AWS services training session. covered alot of their services.

basically on could AWS their home computer and have access to it from anywhere in the word, with plugins for ipad and andriod